Google’s Florida update (November 2003) got hit real hard on or around January 23. Google’s latest update is called Austin, and they are beginning to ‘sound’ like elections!
Depending on the industry you happen to be in, you could have been hit less, or harder- it depends on a whole number of factors and not one situation is usually the same. One of our clients that, up to recently had their site optimized by another SEO firm was completely devastated to realize his site was gone from the face of the earth.
Things such as FFA’s (Free for All) link farms, invisible text (!) and stuffed meta tags that are 20 screens long, filled with useless spam will have your site penalized, or even banned faster than you can blink an eye.
Google’s new search algorithm is getting smarter and better. Part of it is due to the Hilltop Algorithm, which I wrote about at the beginning of January. In combination with the Page Rank™ algorithm that Google has been using since 1998, these two algo’s work in tandem in what is supposed to be producing better, more relevant search results.
This last statement remains to be tested, as in some cases I have found that some of the results produced are not always relevant. But Google is continuously tweaking and ‘fine-tuning’ its technology to make it better and the next few weeks should see more improvements.
To read the complete article on the Rank for $ales website, click here.
Posted by Search Engine News Blog and by Tech Blog.
Source: http://www.searchenginejournal.com/the-latest-on-update-austin-googles-january-update/237/
Google Update Austin: Google Update Florida Again
January 2004
"Wow Google just destroyed my rankings"
A common line I have been told over and over again. Ever since the middle of November Google has been up to some real trickery...While this update appears to be similar to update Florida, there has not been anywhere near the same amount of coverage. I have read the posts located at the Highrankings Forums, Cre8asite Forums, SearchGuild, and IHelpYou Forums. I have not read the posts at WebmasterWorld since I am not a subscriber. Like the Florida update it is clear that some spam has risen to the top (Google Search: Michigan Data Recovery courtesy MakeMeTop) and some results have improved.
Most SEOs would recommend not making large changes to your site while the search engine is still in a state of flux.
Search Results
Many sites that were not beaten down by the Florida update have been dropped during this update. Some of the common sites which have dropped are- those who relied heavily on "on the page" SEO
- those who exchanged links with off topic sites to rank well
- location specific sites
- Amazon
- large shopping sites
- directories
- deep inner pages within sites which may have a strong site rank
What is Google Trying to do?
Contrary to popular belief the CIA does not control the Google Dance.People like me can make a living manipulating Google's search results. Google does not like this. Essentially Google wants the most relevant (not the most optimized) sites at the top of the search results.
Google may actually periodically re weight factors only for the sake of making it harder to figure out what their algorithm is. Most of the core powerful websites will remain unaffected by the changing algorithms. Those site most likely to rise or fall are those gaming the search engine. Some innocent sites may get lost in the shuffle, but that is not what Google is concerned with. Google wants to provide the most relevant search results to its users.
If Google can make it hard to optimize your site for Google then it will require you to waste resources figuring out the latest algorithm change or conform to what Google desires. Google wants information to appear in the free listings. Google would like commercial sites to use their ads.
What is with the big shakeups?
Any time you introduce a new algorithm which is based on a relational database the results will be a bit shaky off the start. With each update the results will fall more in line with the goals of the new algorithm.Off the start many of the results may not make sense, but the end goal is that most will. You and I both notice the shakeups more than a normal searcher since we track our specific websites.
Google coping with problems
Many search engine algorithms become less efficient as the size of the database grows. To fight off spamming and to improve functionality of their search product Google is trying to aid PageRank by using other algorithmic features. Instead of being primarily powered by just PageRank they are most likely trying to introduce techniques such as LocalRank, stemming, and latent symantic indexing.What is PageRank?
PageRank is an overall view of the popularity of a specific page against the entire internet. In general it is an approximation of the odds a random web surfer would come across a page.The problem with PageRank is that since its base is against the entire internet it is very easy for a small sector of the internet to bond together to manipulate results.
What is LocalRank?
LocalRank is a concept similar to PageRank, but based on a local segment of the web. Teoma reranks the relevancy of search results on the fly (after the search) based upon their local interconnectivity. When Google bought Kaltix it purchased a similar technology.What is Stemming?
Stemming is the conversion of a word to its base form in an attempt to better understand it. Typically the exact match of the the searched version should have a slightly higher weighting, but the other versions of the word also play into account in search results.What is Latent Symantic Indexing?
Latent symantic indexing is the organization of search results through conceptually understand each page. Based upon the natural patterns in language, latent symantic indexing can mathematically approximate a good understanding of the purpose of a document.Why does Google test new technologies on its largest database first?
The reason the change is occurring on the main site first is that it has the most content...meaning that when you look for patterns in a relational database, the larger your initial data set, the better the results you will be able to extract.After the results are extracted it then easy to apply the results of the research to the other search locations. Some of the short term sloppy results may actually be necessary for Google to compare data to fine tune its algorithm. It may even compare data retrieved from search results.
What Did Google Do?
I think off the start Google implemented a keyword filter on some phrases. The setpoint level is based upon many dynamic factors and could even be determined by the search results.During the Florida Update I noticed that I was able to get some sites listed (which were filtered out) just by splitting up the words and lowering the keyword density. I have noticed that this update seems to be even less lenient.
I do not believe the change is just a filter, I only believe they use a strong filter in combination with other technologies. After they start to collect data the filter becomes more and more lenient. To see what the search results would be like without the "filter" use allintext: before your search. This will show results similar to the pre Austin dance. I would not grieve about the results though as they will again be changing as the database settles out.
I believe as Google collects data from the search results, whatever type of filter they are using will slowly be lifted and replaced with data from the search results.
What Can I do to Help My Site Out?
If you are a purely commercial website Google is trying to push you to use their ad system. If you still do not want to use the ad system it is going to require accumulating inbound links from quality websites.A good place to start is by registering your site with some of the top web directories. In addition you will want to look for directories specific to your field.
Where else can I get links?
You can get links from anywhere, but it is appearing that topic related links are becoming more important. The best way to get links is to have content that other people like enough that they just want to link to it.I hate to be the person to say focus on the content, but as search engines get more advanced it will be harder to manipulate them. Pick a topic that is tight enough that you can be the best at it, and pick a topic you are interested it...as it will be far easier and more enjoyable to create.
If you can get people to want to link to you because you have valuable information, especially if they link without you even asking...then you have a great competitive advantage against most of your competitors. If you need any help with promoting your website feel free to give me a call or shoot me an email.
- by Aaron Wall
We Value Privacy
|
|
Source: http://www.search-marketing.info/newsletter/articles/austin-florida.htm
Change In the DNA 10:
If you’re a forum regular you know by now that Google’s results are changing again. I hope your rankings improve.| Brandy Exposed |
While this update has not yet fully rolled out to all the datacenters, you can search the new Google here: http://64.233.161.105/.
What difference do you notice?
So what’s different now? Andy Beal said that it “looks like they have tweaked things to include a lot more “authority” sites that were previously not included.” This speaks to the Stepforth announcement that Google had increased the number of links that they recognize.
Daniel Brandt from over at Google-Watch.org said that he’s seeing “lots of Austin type results in many categories.” About the change in results he said “It’s too early [to tell what the difference is], or not a very impressive update.”
“In this case the change is not as significant as Florida or Austin. I don’t think it will be as sticky,” he concluded.
GoogleGuy, a Google spokesperson who posts at WebMasterWorld, verified the update and gave a rough timeline for its roll out, “I just talked to somebody else at Google. Sounds like 64.x.x.x is indeed the wave of the future. They did say that it may roll out over several days instead of being done over the weekend though.”
In answer to a poster’s question on whether the Brandy update was a move back to pre-Florida results GoogleGuy said, “we’ve definitely been working to incorporate new signals of quality and improve the way that we rank pages, so the results at the 64.x.x.x data center are not a rollback or pre-Florida results–it’s several steps forward based on new ways of gauging quality and relevance.”
Visit this Google datacenter: http://64.233.161.105/ and post any differences you notice.
Garrett French is the editor of iEntry’s eBusiness channel. You can talk to him directly at WebProWorld, the eBusiness Community Forum.
Source: http://www.webpronews.com/googles-brandy-update-exposed-2004-02
The Google update of the 17th-20th February 2004 (nicknamed ‘Brandy’ by WebmasterWorld) resulted in major changes in the results the search engine returns.
The ‘Brandy’ update seems to have incorporated some pre-’Florida’ results (another major update that occurred at the end of 2003), mixed with numerous new factors. Google stores its index on a number of data centers around the world. Since ‘Florida’, some of the old data centers were taken offline, and pundits believe that Google has kept the old SERPs (Search Engine Results Pages) in a preserved state for the last few months.
Indeed, Google brought these data centres back at the same time that Yahoo! broke from Google, in favour of its new Inktomi-based results. Consequently, I don’t think this is the last of the major changes we’ll see in Google, but it does seem that Google is getting closer to what it aims to achieve.
Five Changes
Brin, one of the founders of Google recently said,Google has made five significant changes to its algorithmic formulas in the last two weeks.
(Associated Press (AP), Feb 17th 2004)
While we can only guess at what those changes were, the following are probably a good bet.
- Increase in Index SizeGoogle’s spider, Googlebot, has had a busy few weeks — at the time of the update, Google announced that it had massively increased the size of its index.
This move was probably made to ensure Google made headlines at the same time as Yahoo! (for example, in this report in the BBC News, Feb 18th 2004). However, in order to increase the index size, Google may have had to re-include some of the pre-Florida results that had previously been dropped. - Latent Semantic Indexing (LSI)This
is a very significant new technology that Google has always been
interested in, and the incorporation of LSI has been on the cards for
some time. If you are an insomniac, then Yu et al.’s paper
is quite helpful in explaining the concept, but, in short, LSI is about
using close semantic matches to put your page into the correct topical
context.
It’s all about synonyms. LSI may see Google effectively remove all instances of the search keyword when analysing your page, in favour of a close analysis of other words. For example, consider the search term ‘travel insurance’. LSI-based algorithms will look for words and links that pertain to related topics, such as skiing, holidays, medical, backpacking, and airports. - Links and Anchor TextLinks
have always been the essence of Google, but the engine is steadily
altering its focus. The importance of Page Rank (PR), Google’s unique
ranking system, is being steadily downgraded in favour of the nature,
quality, and quantity of inbound and outbound link anchor text. If PR is
downgraded, and the wording of inbound links is boosted, this may
explain, to a large degree, the position in which many sites currently
find themselves.
For example, most people will link to a site’s homepage. In the past, due to internal linking structures, PR was spread and other pages benefited. Now, it is more important for Webmasters to attract links that point directly to the relevant pages of their sites using anchor text that’s relevant to the specific pages.
Furthermore, Google seems to be using outbound links to determine how useful and authoritative a site is. For example, directories that are doing well are those that direct link to the sites, rather than use dynamic URLs. - NeighbourhoodsNow,
more than ever, has the question of who’s linking to your site become
critical. Links must be from related topic sites (the higher the PR the
better); those links are seen to define your ‘neighbourhood’.
If we again consider the example of travel insurance, big insurance companies might buy links on holiday-related sites in order to boost their ranking. These businesses will actively invest in gaining targeted inbound links from a broad mix of sites. Consequently, their neighbourhoods appear tightly focused to Google. - Downgrading of Traditional Tag-Based OptimisationClever use of the title, h1, h2, bold, and italics tags, and CSS, is no longer as important to a site’s ranking as it once was. It is very interesting to listen to Sergey (co-founder of Google) talk about this, because he’s the one usually quoted about the ways in which people manipulate his index. Google has taken big steps to downgrade standard SEO techniques in favour of LSI and linking, which are far less manipulable by the masses.
The Impact of Brandy
These changes make for sober reading if you’re a Webmaster — to optimize your site successfully for Google has become a lot more difficult. Nevertheless, there are a number of practical steps that can be taken to promote your ranking in the short and long term.- SynonymsAs LSI appears to be so significant, it is important to start looking carefully at the information architecture of each major section of your site, and to increase the use of related words. It is also important to re-examine the title tags to include this concept; good title tags have synonyms and avoid repetition of the key phrase.
- Outbound LinksLink to authority sites on your subject. In the travel insurance example, these authority sites could include places like the State department, major skiing directories, etc. Not only will this help with LSI, it also allows Google to define the neighbourhood more easily. Furthermore, you could engage in link swaps with other companies so that you gain the benefit of an on-topic, LSI-friendly link.
- Inbound Links and Link to Us PagesBased
on what we have just said, sites need to formulate a link development
strategy. A budget needs to be set aside to buy links and develop
mini-sites. Look to set up links with university sites (.edu or ac.uk),
as these seem to be valuable given Google’s informational bias.
Each section of a site should have its own link-to-us page. For example, HotScripts, the major computer script directory, has a great link-to-us page.
By providing people with creatives and cut-and-paste HTML, you can vastly improve your chances of attracting reciprocal links to your site. You’ll need to have a separate page for each section, to maximise on-topic inbound links. - Mini-SitesIt
is important to develop separate mini-sites (also known as satellite
sites) for each key subject of your Website. This is a useful tactic
that improves your chances of appearing in the SERPs for your keywords.
Furthermore, as the last three Google updates have shaken things up so
much, having more than one site reduces the likelihood that your
business will be disrupted by the engine’s updates. However, Google is
likely to view satellite sites as spam, so you must take some steps to
reduce the chances of your being blacklisted on this basis.
First, make it as hard as possible to for Google to detect host affiliation between your main site and its mini-sites. Google may define sites to be owned by the same person if the first 3 octets of the sites’ IP addresses are the same (e.g. 123.123.123.xxx). Therefore, if you’re going to run mini-sites, put them on different Web hosts.
Secondly, use different domain names for your mini-sites, rather than sub-domains of your main site. In the past, Google has not penalised sub-domains, but the early results from the Brandy update show a considerable reduction in the presence of sub-domains in the SERPs.
Finally, be very careful with the linking strategy you use between mini-sites — Google will look at the linking structure very critically. Don’t plaster each of your sites with links to the others, and don’t reciprocate links between the sites.
Mini-sites make it easier to create on-topic neighbourhoods and experiment with LSI techniques. Creating a large network can be a means to boost your main site’s rank, but make sure you’re well aware of the risks involved with creating these mini-sites before you embark.
Use Brandy to your Advantage!
Google optimisation is now a lot harder than it used to be. However, the index is still manipulable. Success involves hard work, and potentially the expenditure of funds to develop a good mini-site network and buy links on relevant pages.Source: http://www.sitepoint.com/brandy-google-update/
Joe Rogan's Twitter: https://twitter.com/joerogan
Rogan's Forums: http://forums.joerogan.net/
Tom Campbell's Forums: http://www.my-big-toe.com/forums/
My FREE Newsletter: http://redpillphilosophy.com
Forums: http://redpill.boards.net
Cool Shirts: http://redpillphilosophy.com/store
Support this Message: http://redpillphilosophy.com/invest
My Bitcoin Address: 1NtSZ7SrVRm9z6KWURNiNPpNbgmoo774sK
Twitter: https://twitter.com/chriswritingnow


11 April 2003 11:57am
As promised, Google are including previously banned sites which have mended their wicked ways, and are requesting that anyone else who wishes to be reconsidered sends an e-mail to webmaster@google.com, with a subject of "Reinclusion request", or similar, along with a confessional ("Receive my confession, O most loving and gracious GoogleGuy...") saying what you did, and how you've cleaned up. If you are going to do it, do it quickly, before the next deep crawl starts for maximum chance of reinstatement
I personally would be a bit economical with the truth here; these requests are one of Googles best sources of information on how people spam them and exploit the more glaring weaknesses in their algorithm, and it wouldn't do for them to be able to find and fix ALL of them ;)
Also, GoogleGuy dropped a BIG HINT :
He is actively requesting spam reports on hidden text, and hidden links. If you are using these techniques, I would SERIOUSLY look at ways to remove/replace them, BEFORE the deep crawl comes around in a few days time (DeepBot comes from the 216.* block, don't confuse it with the FreshBot out of the 64.* block. Both report themselves as GoogleBot, but its Ms. DeepBot who you need to court most)
So, there we have it, Google update "Cassandra", April 2003. Luck to you all
Source: http://econsultancy.com/us/forums/other-topics/google-update-cassandra-is-here
Change5:
msg:160169
Earlier this week, albert [webmasterworld.com] started a thread called “Understanding Dominc [webmasterworld.com].” In that thread, he compiled a list of all of GoogleGuy’s recent comments concerning update dominic. The excerpts were a big help for many of our members. However, the following discussion quickly ended up much like the various threads that albert originally had to dig through in order to compile his list.
Trying to wade through all the various update threads has clearly caused some frustration [webmasterworld.com] for many of our members. So in order to try and alleviate some of that frustration, I thought we might try a new version of albert’s original post. This version includes all of albert’s original excerpts. It will also be updated periodically. However, we are going to keep this thread “read only.”
Anyone interested in following GoogleGuy’s contributions to the current update discussions can bookmark or flag this thread. If/when we post updates, this thread will appear on the active list.
If you have any questions or comments relating to anything in this thread, I would greatly appreciate it if you post them in one of our current update threads.
Update dominic – Part 9 [webmasterworld.com]
Or
Serious Google update analysis thread [webmasterworld.com]
WG
SJ started testing a new index with a sightly different build of backlinks.
[webmasterworld.com...]
GoogleGuy msg #44 May 5
[webmasterworld.com...]
GoogleGuy msg #107 May 5
[webmasterworld.com...]
GoogleGuy msg #134 May 5
[webmasterworld.com...]
GoogleGuy msg #146 May 5
[webmasterworld.com...]
GoogleGuy msg #160 May 5
[webmasterworld.com...]
GoogleGuy msg 165 May 5
[webmasterworld.com...]
GoogleGuy msg 178 May 5
[webmasterworld.com...]
GoogleGuy msg #298 May 5
[webmasterworld.com...]
GoogleGuy msg #108 May 6
GoogleGuy msg #43 May 6
[webmasterworld.com...]
GoogleGuy msg #11 May 8
[webmasterworld.com...]
GoogleGuy msg #197 May 10
[webmasterworld.com...]
GoogleGuy msg 203 May 10
[webmasterworld.com...]
GoogleGuy msg #52 May 14
[webmasterworld.com...]
GoogleGuy msg #59 May 14
[webmasterworld.com...]
GoogleGuy msg #73 May 14
[webmasterworld.com...]
GoogleGuy msg#86 May 14
Please help spread the word so people know what to expect and don't worry too much.
[webmasterworld.com...]
GoogleGuy msg #377 May 14
[webmasterworld.com...]
Google Guy in this thread msg #16 May 14
- it helps to think of sj and fi as similar. It's better conceptually to think of them as cut from the same cloth.
- chiyo, every data center has different machine characteristics. So similar/identical indices might look slightly different at different data centers. This goes back to the point above. Don't think of it as if we build a different index with a different theme for different customers. Our partners get the same scoring/data that we use. That said, the global index that we build can emphasize different things more, such as topicality or more diverse file types.
So sj/fi are different in several ways. I would expect that difference to spread to other data centers. Then things will resume moving forward. Hope that helps,
GoogleGuy
[webmasterworld.com...]
Google Guy in this thread msg #28 May 14
I've been using "sj" to denote this different nature, but I appreciate the chance to clarify.
[webmasterworld.com...]
GoogleGuy msg 4 May 14
[webmasterworld.com...]
GoogleGuy msg 43 May 14
trillianjedi, just to clarify on the other point, I mentioned that backlinks could be brought in on a relatively short timeframe, but remember that we are talking about terabytes of data here--the web is a big chunk of data. I think I also replied to someone else at one point that bringing in those backlinks wasn't the sort of thing that could happen in a day or two. Hope that sheds more light on things
msg:160170
Backlink reduction due to improved estimation of link counts
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg #7 May 9
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg #2 May 17
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg #3 May 17
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg #2 May 17
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg #16 May 17
We still use the scoring improvements from last September, but you don't hear people worrying about it now. I'm looking forward to doing a similar post for our next major improvement, whenever that comes: "You know, if you go back to May, you'll see several webmasters were worried about that change too. Would you believe that there were over 4000+ posts from people who were anxious about that change? ..." Anyway, each webmaster is free to do whatever they want, of course. I do think that people would feel less stressed if they took a step (or two) back though. I think you've seen that somewhat; many of the senior members of WebmasterWorld haven't been doing tons of posts in the dominic discussions.
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg #24 May 17
Hey nutsandbolts, let's try something new. If you have feedback about this index, do a spam report with your nickname, mention webmasterworld, but also include "dominic" in the comments. If people have general feedback or specific examples about this index, that's the best way to get the examples to us. I'm not worried about spammers that were banned and are back for a brief time--that will be short-lived. But if you have comments about searches that seem better/worse (preferably not just searches for your own site), send a spam report with "dominic" somewhere in the comments. We'll read what people have to say when they can give specific searches.
[edit reason] Modified nesting for formatting. [/edit]
msg:160171
Look at the overall picture. - Do you show well at sj/cw/fi and the like? - Spam will disappear again
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg 39 May 17
worker, if I were playing Yoda like Alphawolf suggests, I'd say: worry less about PR on the toolbar and more about rankings. And less about rankings for high-profile phrases and more about overall rankings. And less about rankings and more about traffic. And less about traffic and more about conversions. Maybe that doesn't sound much like Yoda though. I think the shorter answer would be that if you're showing well at datacenters like sj/cw/fi, I wouldn't worry much about what the PR says. I just wanted to say thanks to the other posters who are taking a step back and looking at the overall picture. Please help to remind people that the longer-term view will keep folks less stressed and more productive. :)
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg #54 May 17
mrdch, I understand why webmasters may be anxious--mainly my post was meant to bring out a few points that people may have missed. WebmasterWorld is great for the micro-level view ("I dropped from #4 to #16, but only in cw!"), but not always for the larger landscape.
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg #78 May 17 (referring to msg #71)
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg #109 May 18
[webmasterworld.com ]
Google Guy msg #181 May 18
(Remark: quote shortened)
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg #205 May 18
(Remark: read accurately, also posts referred to)
1) deploy the new index/system across all data centers
2) begin pulling in more data (i.e. newer backlinks, pages, and spam updates)
3) once new data is into the system, begin pulling in new algorithms that have been waiting in the wings
I believe the current status is that we're around step 1.5 or thereabouts; something like 7 or so data centers have the new index/system. I expect the current pace of switching data centers to continue about as it has been. I would expect step two to occur over roughly the same timeframe as a typical index cycle (thus the "more than weeks, less than months" comment). Step 3 is longer-term and ongoing, but I'm really excited about what we'll be able to do to improve quality across the board.
Hope that helps,
GoogleGuy (Staza, that should help with your questions: yes, and I believe so to #1 and #2.)
[edit reason] Formatting of nested elements. [/edit]
msg:160172
About hidden text
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg #22 May 19
Just today, I've fielded questions from two sites that had hidden text and were taken out for 30 days. One site owner knew that they had had hidden text and one didn't. If you had hidden text on your pages and you think that might be the problem, you'll want to double-check that all the hidden text is gone. The first set of hidden-text penalties will be expiring over the next week or two. Sounds like that probably isn't an issue, but it's something to bear in mind.
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg #36 May 20
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg #31 May 20
Anyway, I hope that addresses some of your questions. We're always looking for feedback on what we can do better. In another thread, I gave a way to give specific feedback to Google about the SJ index: do a spam report with "dominic" in the comments. I've since reminded people about that method a couple times. Yet the number of reports via that form has been less than even the number of posts on this thread. After 3000+ posts about this index on WebmasterWorld, we're sitting at around 30 concrete suggestions about what's bad/good about the SJ index. By that measure, SJ is definitely an improvement over past indices.
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg #42 May 20 re msg #37 (shortened)
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg #45 May 20
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg #11 May 20
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg 158 May 20
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg 161 May 20
If you drive across the U.S., you can still see link farmers from time to time.
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg #170 May 20
msg:160173
Phase 2 Begins Status: index is at all data centers. Subtle spam filter comes soon. Fresh data coming in next days. Timeframe: more than weeks, less than months.
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg #53 May 23
But I'm glad that people have noticed that freshie has been crawling deeply in addition to normal freshie duties.
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg #58 May 23
P.S. About the questions you raised about country language/tld/redirection, I think we've got some changes scheduled soon (next week) that should bring it in line with what many users expect again. Just wanted to let you know that that was coming too.
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg #65 May 23
msg:160174
At least another traditional update expected
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg #81 May 23
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg #88 May 23
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg #91 May 23
msg:160175
About toolbar, status of index, and backlinks
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg #43 May 23
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg #102 May 23
Those dang prepositions. :)
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg #109 May 23
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg #113 May 23
[webmasterworld.com ]
GoogleGuy msg 120 May 23
msg:160176
Thanks for the killer post WebG.
By kpaul in Op-Ed
Tue Jun 24, 2003 at 07:34:57 AM EST
Tags: Internet (all tags)
To add to the mysteriousness, Freshbot began to act a little more like the Deepcrawler. Traditionally, Freshbot came from a different IP range and added pages to the index immediately as opposed to once a month like Deepbot did. Freshbot's purpose was to add 'freshness' to the search results in between monthly updates.
Did the late monthly update and disappearance of Deepbot signal the birth of a new bot? Names like deepfreshBot and FredBot were posted around the 'net as people pondered the new activity in their logs.
GoogleGuy (a Google employee who posts anonymously at WebmasterWorld - yes, it's been verified) confirmed that a big change was in the works and that people should be patient as Google evolved. He said the process would take "more than weeks, less than months."
Cryptic, but to be honest, I'm happy to get any first-hand, 'unofficial' info from them. During Dominic, SERPs (search engine result pages) were all over the place. Some pointed back to the now infamous September '02 update that was talked about in Wired and on that other site.
The doomsayers always appear during an update, though, predicting the downfall of the 'obviously-evil-because-they-don't-list-my-site' Google. The conspiracy theorists come out in droves as well.
One theory that was offered to the world was that Google had run out of unique id's because they used four bytes instead of five or more when designing their database infrastructure. Googleguy mentioned that a Google employee fell out of his chair laughing when he heard that.
Beyond the anger and conspiracies, though, some took GoogleGuy's messages and tried to make sense of what was going on. (This whole marketing thing Google has going on with GoogleGuy may be a story in itself.)
Anyway, although no one from Google has officially confirmed it, they're apparently moving away from a once-a-month crawl/update cycle to a more continuous updating process. As the web grows, this is becoming a necessity to have the freshest results possible. They're also perfecting (as much as they can) automated spam detectors to help clean up the SERPs.
For Google to stay on top (as they edge closer to an eventual IPO), these are worthy tasks. They need to innovate. They need to stay two steps ahead of their closest competitors, even if it means a little collateral damage in the SERPs for a little while. At this time, in my humble opinion, the only SE that comes close to rivaling Google is FAST's AllTheWeb.
Yahoo is most likely going to dump Google as a provider of their search engine results at some point this year, though. And Microsoft is also showing an interest in the search engine market. With two giants like that (not to mention FAST becoming a giant in its own right), it's becoming more and more important for Google to maintain their lead.
As I said in the intro, the Esmeralda update appears to be settling down somewhat and should stabilize sometime in the next few days. From there, SEOs (search engine optimizers) will again look at how Google ranks the web and how best to optimize for it.
The bigger question, though, is what it means for the Internet at large? Personally, I think it's an effort by Google to maintain their dominance in the search engine game. And Google has always been a good neighbor in cyberspace so this is not necessarily a bad thing.
Sure, some may snort and chuckle when Microsoft and search engines are mentioned in the same sentence, but they have a *lot* of money. In our society this means they don't necessarily need the best product to have the most market share. Just take a look at Internet Explorer and its dominance over Netscape and other browsers.
The thing is, if Google can remember what they were like when they were still the little guys, they have a fighting chance at fending off Microsoft and the others. This latest major change to their algorithm and crawling methods is, I think, a move by Google to sprint ahead of the competition before it's too late.